is an event, the prestigious French magazine Psychiatry published verbatim interview with Jean-Luc Giribone on the theme of the encounter between Buddhism and psychoanalysis. The article in its entirety can be found in No. 1 / 2010, pp.133-145. Here is a first single available to blog readers Psychology and Meditation.
"Jean-Luc Giribone is an associate professor of literature, he has served in a long editorial in the humanities at the Threshold. He worked for the dissemination of Palo Alto in France, attended the seminar Jacques Lacan, he is the author of Laughter strange. Bergson with Freud (ed. Sandre, 2008). He is the guest of a symposium organized by the Association of Young Psychologists & Psy, whose theme is "Beyond my freedom? Psychoanalysis, Philosophy and Meditation" to be held at the Institute of Psychology, University of Paris V November 27, 2010. On this occasion he met French Psychiatry and exposes us the little known but profound relationship between psychoanalysis and Buddhist thought. And this, with an erudition which mixes humor, in a journey that takes us from Freud to Chogyam Trungpa, La Rochefoucauld Gregory Bateson, Lacan to Zen ... where we see that the self is not far training symptomatic. Bridges are possible and Jean-Luc Giribone helps us to throw them over the waters still uncrowded.
Nicolas D'Inca: Psychoanalysis and Buddhism the theme may seem surprising, we will try to understand with you the relationship between the world of psychology and the spirituality. These two fields have long been separated. Do you see in this invitation from this group of young clinical psychologists a sign that times have changed, the university or the scientific world may be opening a dialogue possible? Jean-Luc
Giribone: Absolutely, and I will go even further, it's something I've been waiting a long time, for twenty years to be precise. We are always excited and amazed that the fruit will eventually be mature, we have not done much for them to be, because the passage of time has created a new situation that allows a dialogue that was previously not possible. After all, it is understandable that the world "shrink", the therapists and psychoanalysts, nourished by the interest in these practices that are made to induce a change and are therefore interesting in themselves. They are a reflection on what might be called the inner change, progress internal reflection immemorial not only present in Buddhism. I find it extremely interesting, even from a secular point of view or secular, to try to understand what these people are "isolated," for example the notion of ego, as a fundamental concept in Buddhism for psychoanalysis.
Nicolas D'Inca: The dialogue between Buddhism and psychoanalysis is a novelty, but only a novelty in France, since the meetings took place in Anglo-Saxon Switzerland in the postwar period, from the 50s or 60. This reflection happens only now in France. It must be said that unlike the time, people now practice meditation. Is this a positive development in the Western approach of Buddhism do you think?
Giribone Jean-Luc: Yes, I think. I think the most devastating is that Buddhism is confined to her backyard, which is considered a kind of Eastern thing "that appeals to some minds but that has nothing substantive to say. I think the opposite, and I'm not alone, it is very important that the West is open to that other continent cultural, spiritual, philosophical. It should be stressed that Buddhism challenges our conventional system category. It is unique as a whole, to use terms mathematics, he belongs to a group which for us is the only element. That night was probably a way for its extension, the fact that we are not able to get it into our usual Western categories. At the same time, it's quite an interest because it belongs to a world map where these things we call religion, spirituality, practical morality, politics, art, are connected. If we recall something we Westerners, that is when these fields were not separated at the time called the "Presocratics , Where the fields of thought are linked together and communicate deeply to describe the same place. Then there was what Bourdieu calls the field of empowerment, through which they gained strength and stability. Thus was formed the West, with its wealth of thought. This is not to deny it, but understand that this has occurred, comes a world whose cultural mapping is different. There is something strong, although the emergence of Buddhism did not come without what the author calls the contemporary Chogyam Trungpa "spiritual materialism." Taste of "orientaleries" as they say the taste of Japanese prints or china, is indisputable and can not deny it. But there is something deeper, which is a reflection on the West itself, which is neither denial nor mea culpa, but rather a vision where he sees himself.
Nicolas D'Inca: What you are saying is that Buddhism arrived in the West at a very special moment in its history, when it can have a look at his own history. And when the fields are separated into different fields who communicate little, perhaps Buddhism that could afford an overview. It turns out that the symposium "Beyond my freedom? "Has the subtitle" Psychoanalysis, Philosophy and Meditation. " You point that these three fields are linked. The thought is a very important place in the vision of this conference, which would supply, support a therapeutic practice. We also know that you are an alumnus of the Ecole Normale Superior, you wrote a book The strange laugh. Bergson with Freud is just a dialogue and that shows you are sensitive to the philosophical dimension of psychoanalysis, as you try to find links between these two traditions.
Jean-Luc Giribone: That is the question of the link. When you put together two fields, one must ask: what linking is artificial or fictitious, and which is justified on the contrary, fruitful, epistemologically founded? I've always been wary of broad syntheses, it has never been my approach, which is rather intuitive. In the book which you were referring, what struck me is that the description given by Bergson's magnificent comedy, echoes not so much in Freud's joke, but what he says elsewhere on the uncanny. A number of themes almost the same as the repetition, for example. In fact it is not to synthesize between Bergson and Freud but to try to understand this relationship, to question and interpret. It's about whether one speaking of comedy, one of the uncanny - it is the thesis of the book - do not speak both of the same, the same place seen from different perspectives . Regarding Buddhism and psychoanalysis, it is also the center of the symposium, I find that the link is undeniable in this notion of ego. Nicolas
D'Inca: Jean-Luc Giribone, the conference theme is "Beyond my freedom? "What about this notion of me, ego, the subject? Why this issue is so crucial for psychoanalysis today the twenty-first century and why is it so important to also understand Buddhism in the West?
Giribone Jean-Luc: Yes, there was a change of values, I think we can say so even if the conference will lead to more precise formulations of the concept of ego from Freud to Lacan. Lacan says that it is Freudian, he is indeed, as a number of formulations are Lacanian their origin in Freud. The fact remains that we went from a vision of the ego as a place of psychic synthesis to another concept, quite different, a body that is basically in ignorance of the truth of the matter . The function of the ego as it is reference in the dream or in everyday behavior, is largely to disregard, to ignore a certain truth about the deaf, the forms and he will not recognize as coming from him. The subject wants to be at that level of self and what happens within him to that other level, he will not hear of it because it is not its image in the mirror. The famous text of Lacan speaks of the mirror stage the child is finally as a unit, for the first time - we can not ever really being in his own eyes that a dismembered body. But the problem is that I see myself as another. The moment I go to the unit is also where she is insane. This proceeding in which all my life I will try to place myself, I do not see at the same time it was built from the outset as an instance alienating. "
(To be continued)
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